My grandmother was 1/2 cherokee and was born Jan 17 ,1872or 1873 in Fredonia,KS her mother was Malinda Kroll Boren, her father was Thomas Boren. Her name was Mary Malinda Boren and married to John Wesley Weaver on Sep 9, 1894.
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There’s a Mary M. Boren born about 1872 who married a John Weaver and was the daughter of Thomas Boren and a Manece/Manesa KNOWLES (who had a sister named Malinda), and they lived in Kansas before moving into Oklahoma sometime before 1900.
Could this be the same family?
This family came from Indiana, through Illinois and then into Kansas, before eventually moving into Indian Territory during Oklahoma Land Rush days.
I believe that is her. How would I find out if she was on any indian rolls?
Thanks you very much for responding.
Not sure what rolls you’d be looking for in this case, as they weren’t Indians. Many of these lines can be traced back rather far with a lot of clear records and documentation. Her family was of White settler stock moving from the eastern seaboard, pushing into ceded tribal lands over generations. Certain branches moved into Greene County GA when that land was taken from Cherokees. They then moved into Indiana Territory about the time when tribes there were pushed west (after Battle of Tippacanoe). They continued to moved west over generations, eventually living in Illinois for a bit, then settling in southeast Kansas after Osages ceded their lands there. Finally, the more recent branches pushed into Indian Territory at the height of allotment and the breakup of tribal nations in that location, around 1900. So, basically they benefited from the dispossession of tribal people and were in some proximity, but they were not Indians themselves. They were on the other side of that historical divide so to speak. They were perennial settlers.
Here is an overview and some links to discover (quite fascinating reading actually).
You can find Mary’s family living in Duck Creek, Wilson, Kansas in 1880. Mary was born in that state in 1872 and her parents were both born in Indiana. Thomas was 36, giving him a birth year of about 1844. Manece was 34, and was born about 1846. This couple was also found in the 1870 Census prior to Mary’s birth, again, in Wilson County, KS. Their place of birth listed as Indiana.
Manece Knoles can be found in 1850 and 1860s with her parents Jesse and Nancy Knoles (various spellings) living in Menard County, Illinois. Nancy later shows up in Wilson County, KS in the 1870 Census, as head of household (Jesse not listed). Jesse was in the Union Army during the Civil War.
Thomas can be found in the 1860 Census living in Menard County, IL with his parents Evans and Eliza Boren. They were born in IN and KY, respectively (1820 and 1810).
Both the Boren and Knowles families came from Gibson County, IN, originally.
Evans Boren findagrave page:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=99781286&ref=acom
This Knowles line is quite well-traced. Here is a link to sources citing how they moved from Georgia to Indiana about 1811:
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Marvel-11
Sample:
“James and Patience Knowles disposed of their property in Georgia and in November 1811, together with the children and their families, they started the journey to the Indiana Territory. In all, they made a caravan of twenty-three persons. They passed through Cherokee Indian country and found them willing to sell the provisions they needed. As they neared the Ohio River, news of the Battle of Tippecanoe on Nov 5th reached them. On the evening of Dec 16, they encamped on the northern shore of the Ohio River and felt the tremors of the great earthquake of 1811. The next morning, they continued northward and met John Marvel and Jesse Knowles who came to meet them and lead them to “Old Fort Branch” in Gibson County, Indiana where they had settled earlier. After a few days rest the Knowles family built a cabin of poles in the dense forest. Patience (Marvel) Knowles died of consumption on May 5th 1817. James Knowles was married a second time to Elizabeth (Fugat) Clark a widow with five children. To this union two children were born; Prudence who died in infancy and John Lowerey Knowles. James Knowles died Oct 23, 1839 and was laid to rest beside his wife of many years. From Marvel History for the Descendants of Prettyman Marvel, Jr. by Mildred Marvel Burwell, Ca. 1970.”
Since it can get confusing with expanding branches, here is a simplified list of Mary Boren Weaver’s ancestors:
Mary (Boren) Weaver
b. 1872 KS
Born in a part of Kansas that had been ceded by Osage Tribe and flooded with White Americans staging for the opening of Indian Territory. She moved into that territory just before 1900 when the tribal nations were being broken up and surplus land was available to White settlers.
http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php?title=Wilson_County,_Kansas
Mary Boren’s parents:
Thomas Boren
b. 1844 IN
Manece Knowles (various spellings for first, and surname)
b. 1846 IN
Mary Boren’s grandparents:
Evans Boren
b. 1820 IN
Eliza LNU
b. 1810 KY
Jesse- Marvel Knowles, JR
1816 – 1868
Nancy Jane Stone
1819 – 1871
Mary Boren’s great-grandparents:
Ezekiel Boren (1792 – 1873)
Rosa Evans Boren (1797 – 1863)
Jesse Marvel Knowles Sr. (1787 – 1852)
Elizabeth Reed (1793 – 1868)
Thomas Allen Stone (1785 – 1822)
Dorcas B. Montgomery (1787 – 1861)
See page 62 for family links along the Stone line and where the Manisa name comes from:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jacmac/stone.pdf
Random notes that might be helpful painting a picture of the movement of these family lines:
“After Jesse sold his land on the east side of Black River to his brother Prettyman Knowles, he bought and lived on a farm a few miles east of Mounts in Gibson County, Indiana. Later, he sold his property to Warrick Montgomery and moved to Illinois after his family was grown.”
“In the early autumn of 1795 my great-grandfather, James Knowles, together with his wife who was Patience Marvel before their marriage, and their five sons and one daughter, Prettyman, James Jr., Freddy, Jesse, Nathan and the daughter, Comfort, packed their belongings into a covered wagon, left the valley of the Delaware River, in Sussex County, Delaware, and passed out into the adjacent land of Maryland and on to the shores of the Chesapeake Bay where they boarded a schooner which had been previously engaged and were safely landed on the Virginia shore where they again took up trail through Virginia and the Carolinas and into Georgia to a point in Green County about 15 miles from Greensboro, the county seat, about 60 miles northwest of Augusta.”
http://www.kknfa.org/Documents/CoveredWagonClub.htm
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dcwesley&id=I87