My great great grandmother was born Flora Fleming in Indiana around 1904-1906, she passed around 1927-1928 as Flora Carwile. My great grandfather Raymond Carwile was born January 24,1926 in Ky. I have been told that she was Native American but I can not find information, Please help
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You can find documents confirming lineage, moving back through a number of generations. Flora Flemmings has no apparent Native Americans ancestry. Many of these family lines can be traced back the early 1700s, and are of solidly White settler roots.
Raymond’s birth cert summary info is as follows:
Name: Ray H Carwile
Date of Birth: 24 Jan 1926
Birth Place: Breckinridge, Kentucky, USA
Mother’s name: Flora Flemmings
Volume Number: 002
Certificate Number: 00612
Volume Year: 1926
You can then find him living with his maternal grandparents, Wesley and Alice Flemmings in Meade, KY, in 1940. It also states he was living in Breckinridge KY in 1935. You can find Flora living with her parents in the 1920 Census. Wesley and Alice were both born in Indiana.
Here is Wesley death certificate summary info:
Name: Wesley Flemmings
Death Date: 10 Nov 1941
Death Location: Meade, Kentucky, USA
Age: 66
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 28 May 1875
Birth Location: Indiana
Father’s name: Manuel Flemmings
Father’s Birth Location: Indiana
Mother’s name: Elizabeth Cash
Mother’s Birth Location: Indiana
This couple was married in Indiana in 1899. They can be found living in Perry, Indiana, on the 1900 Census. Alice was the daughter of Thomas Patrick Larkin Daily and Nellie Anne Yeakle. They were both born in Indiana (1849 and 1854, respectively). They were married in Indiana in 1869.
Name: Nellie Ann Yakle
Spouse Name: Patrick L Dailey
Marriage Date: 6 Jun 1869
Marriage County: Perry
Nellie’s parents were Peter and Anna Yakel/Yeakel. This family can be found on the 1860 Census, in Perry, Indiana.
Marriage Certificate:
Name: Peter Yeakle
Spouse Name: Anna Ellen Kellems
Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1851
Marriage County: Perry
Peter was born in Iowa, and received a land grant in Indiana in 1857.
Name: Peter Yeakle
Issue Date: 1 Jul 1857
Acres: 40
Meridian: 2nd PM
State: Indiana
County: Perry
Township: 5-S
Range: 1-W
Section: 30
Accession Number: IN2600__.135
Metes and Bounds: No
Land Office: Vincennes
Canceled: No
US Reservations: No
Mineral Reservations: No
Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)
Document Number: 39409
Anna was born in Kentucky about 1831, and moved to Indiana with her parents, Asa and Catherine Kellem, sometime after 1840. They are found in Breckinridge KY in 1840, and Perry, Indiana, by 1850. Asa was born in KY about 1801. Catherine was born in PA about 1809.
Asa also received a land grant in Indiana in 1858.
Name: Asa Kellem
Issue Date: 30 Aug 1858
Acres: 200
Meridian: 2nd PM
State: Indiana
County: Perry
Township: 5-S
Range: 1-W
Section: 31
Accession Number: IN2600__.463
Metes and Bounds: No
Land Office: Vincennes
Canceled: No
US Reservations: No
Mineral Reservations: No
Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)
Document Number: 38722
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Wesley Fleming/Flemming was the son of Emanuel Flemmings and Elizabeth Cash. They were married in Perry, Indiana, in 1874
Name: Emanuel T Fleming
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Cash
Marriage Date: 22 Mar 1874
Marriage County: Perry
Emanual was born about 1851 in Ohio. He was the son of Reuben Fleming and Matilda Wilgren. He can be found living in Perry, Indiana, in 1860. This family unit was found in Washington, Ohio, in 1850.
Death Certificate summary info:
Name: Manual T Fleming
Death Date: 21 Jun 1913
Death Location: Breckinridge, Kentucky, USA
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: Jul 1850
Birth Location: Ohio
Father’s name: R C Fleming
Father’s Birth Location: Ohio
Mother’s Birth Location:Ohio
Elizabeth Cash was born about 1855 in Ohio. She was the daughter of David Miller Cash and Marth Winland. This family could be found in Monroe, Ohio in 1850. By 1860, they had moved to Perry County, Indiana.
I am confused even more. I did not see anything about Raymond’s dad Silas Carwile being married or having a child with Flora Fleming. Maybe my aunt was confused and it was he that was Native American. Thank you for the above information.
Your original query was asking about Flora, so the lineage was traced through that line. Raymond’s SS death record does give his father’s name as Sie M. Carwile. But, Ray was born after the 1920 Census, is not found on the 30 Census (that I was able to find) and shows up with his grandparents by the 1940 Census. So, there is no extant record of him living with his father. I don’t know what the relationship history was for Flora and Silas. But, Silas was living with another woman named Ida B. by 1933, according to a Louisville KY city directly.
Silas was born in 1903 in KY. He died at age 50 in 1943. His death cert is as follows:
Name: Silas Carwile
Death Date: 7 Jun 1953
Death Location: Breckinridge, Kentucky, USA
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 5 May 1903
Birth Location: Kentucky
Father’s name: Alexander Carwile
Mother’s name: Mary Cannan
His father were Alexander Carwile was born in KY in 1854, and was the son of John Lewis Carwile and Lydia Gregory, born in 1824 and 1825, respectively. The Carwile family lines came from colonial VA roots. Mary’s lineage is not as clear. But, she was born in KY in the early 1860s.
They were all listed as White and living in White society. There isn’t any apparent Native connection back to this point in the tree.. Perhaps the family lore of Native ancestry is incorrect or if it is accurate it is more remote? You’d have to just keep plugging away with the research.
However, I can’t do much more at this point because there is nothing firm to really trace. Originally, you were interested in Flora, but then switched to Silas when it turned out Flora was definitely not a Native American. If you posit “Indian blood” based on the family stories or claims and then theorize that it might come from lineages that are more mysterious, and then bounce around to different ancestry, that is not really a matter of effective or accurate genealogy. That is sort of like trying to prove the myth or work backwards, rather than work in a linear progression moving back through the generations and confirm actual lineage and identity and affiliations. I’d recommend that you give a huge grain of salt to the family stories to begin with, and just go with where the records take you. Good luck with your search.
I would LOVE to connect with whoever posted this original question. I come from the Carwile Line and have also heard this. I have handwritten letters mentioning this too. If you could reach out my number is 8126204079