I have found the enrollment card for one of her sons, William. I am from her son, William Richard. I need to prove that they are brothers and therefore I too am from Oh Ko Wi Ki and have Cherokee blood. It won’t be much, but I want to prove it. Any suggestions as to what to do next? Anne
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Your November 3, 2015 query had a bit more info, including surname of husband, This was as follows:
“Oh ko we ki, Martha Patsy Huntley
She would be my gggrandmother. She married William Richard Armstrong. Some assume she was adopted by the Huntley family. A son signed an enrollment card stating he was Cherokee through his mother. Would like to know more.”
So, we have a Martha Huntley who married a William Richard Armstrong. However, I don’t see a William Armstrong listed on the Cherokee enrollment cards. And Huntley doesn’t seem to be a surname associated with the enrollment cards either, even for a parent. What number are you looking at?
From other genealogy posts, it seems you are looking at the following family lines:
Martha Huntley b. 1780 Anson NC married William Richard Armstrong b. 1782 Anson NC (son of Isaac Armstrong and Elizabeth Ussery)
Son: William and Richard Dickson (died in POW camp in Civil War)b. 1824 Marion AL
Grandson: Isaac Huntley Armstrong
Great-grandson: James Richard Armstrong
Timeline:
1820 – Family living in Anson, NC – Isaac is head of household, slave owner (7 slaves)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anson_County,_North_Carolina
1823 – William Richard Armstrong received land grants in Marion AL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_County,_Alabama
1824 – Richard Dickson Armstrong born in AL
1830 – Family found in Marion AL
1850 – Martha in AL
1857 – land grants in AR
1860 – Martha is in AR, William deceased.
I don’t know which son you are referring to here, or which enrollment card he signed. But, It appears that Martha was born in Anson County, NC, married William Richard Armstrong in that same location about 1803. They then moved to Marion County, AL when those lands were opened to White settlment and Richard recieved a land grant. They stayed there for a while, until getting another land grant in AR, in 1857. Martha is found living with her adult children in AR, in 1860. It doesn’t appear she even had any connection with the Cherokee in her own lifetime. What is the source for this phonetic name “Oh Ko Wi Ki” and how is it associated with Martha?
Wallace Armstrong filed for an allotement saying he was 1/2 Indian by blood through his mother Oh Ko Wi Ki.. Family info says that Oh Ko Wi Ki was the same person and Martha Patsy Huntley. I am aware that the Huntleys give no indication of this.
Here is what I have: copy of application Choctaw by Blood, #13992, ledger 2, page 417 dated 5/18/1903. Written on one of the pages “Census card #5530 and on another, “transferred from chick #1256. Since he was transferred, I am assuming he must have applied, which is why I contacted “Allthingscherokee.”
Wallace isn’t my line but his nephew, Richard Dickson is. Richard Dickson is the son of Richard Ricky Armstrong and Martha Patsy Oh Ko Wi Ki. I need to prove that Wallace and Richard are brothers and therefor I too would be a descendant of Oh Ko Wi Ki.
I know this probably is very confusing and I am sorry, but it the only understanding I have. If you can help in any way it would be greatly appreciated.
Anne Legg
I know this is an older post, so you may have already sorted this out.
In the Dawes Rolls, Census Card #5530 is for Wallace Armstrong and Jackson Carnes. They are listed as Choctaw in the Dawes rolls, not Cherokee.
Iin the 1900 Census, Wallace Armstrong was listed as the head of a household in “Township 2 S. Range 11 E., Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory, United States”. Jackson was listed as Wallace’s grandchild. According to the 1900 Census, Wallace was 50 in 1900. So, he would have been born around 1850. Martha Huntly probably wasn’t his mother because she was born around 1784 – so she was in her mid-60s when Wallace was born.
In addition to the dates not adding up, there is no evidence I can find of Richard and Martha having a child named Wallace. There is some dispute about who their sons were, but Wallace does not appear on any list I can find.
One of the best family histories of the line Armstrongs including the Richard/Martha line was collected by Meg Barnett. In her index of Armstrongs in this family, the name Wallace does not apper: One of the best family histories of the Armstrongs was collected by Meg Barnett: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=meggars&id=I00098&ti=%2C
Based on all of this information, I don’t think there’s good evidence that Wallace Armstrong is a child of Martha Huntley.
It is worth mention though that Richard and his brother William moved from North Carolina to the Mississippi area (later this area becomes Alabama). This land was taken from Choctaws. So, it is possible that there was some intermingling. Martha Huntly, however, was not born in this area and had moved with her husband Richard to this area from North Carolina.
Hello there Anne, I am trying to sort out the same info, so I bet you don’t have this figured out yet, lol. What I believe, at this point, is that there isn’t going to be any written record for the info we want. Taking into account non-paternal events, trader style mixing, slave holder mixing….I don’t think my ggrandparents were the product of a “legitimate” pairing. Probably Gypsies involved also, name changes, and the list for why thing cannot be proven seems to go on and on. Sad but true. Court houses burning down, etc. Yeah. It grieves me, as I have put a ridiculous amount of time into this. DNA is the only answer.
Best wishes to you in your search, though.
I tried to find you on Ancestry.com, because I thought I had seen you there once before. You had my George Harper Dixon listed as George Alexander Dixon (I think that was it). I suspect George Alexander was George Harper’s nephew. Anywho, couldn’t find your tree this time. I’m on Ancestry.com,, 23andme, and GEDmatch. You can contact me at madmarie.je@gmail.com. Cheers…
One more thing: just because someone was listed as Choctaw doesn’t mean they were. Mistakes were made, as ever. Likely they were mixed Natives by that time.